{"id":778,"date":"2008-02-15T14:31:31","date_gmt":"2008-02-15T22:31:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/2008\/02\/15\/henry-fogel-on-how-orchestras-look\/"},"modified":"2013-02-07T18:43:41","modified_gmt":"2013-02-08T02:43:41","slug":"henry-fogel-on-how-orchestras-look","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/2008\/02\/15\/henry-fogel-on-how-orchestras-look\/","title":{"rendered":"henry fogel on how orchestras look"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Henry Fogel, former administrator of the Chicago Symphony, has a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/02\/hearing_an_orchestra_with_our.html\">post<\/a> about the visual aspect of orchestral performance.\u00c2\u00a0 Not much new ground covered, but some interesting questions raised.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I do not believe that the intense involvement physically demonstrated by the Berlin Philharmonic or the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/02\/index.php?set_language=en\">Vienna Philharmonic<\/a> or other European orchestras that I&#8217;ve seen is fake. Something in the music resonates with their internal being. And somehow that seems different in this country. Is it the way our musicians are taught? Is it some reserve in the American character, a resistance to showing emotional engagement? I don&#8217;t know the answer, but I believe that we need to discuss and explore the question.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thoughts, anyone? Anyone &#8230; anyone? Bueller?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Henry Fogel, former administrator of the Chicago Symphony, has a post about the visual aspect of orchestral performance.\u00c2\u00a0 Not much new ground covered, but some interesting questions raised. I do not believe that the intense involvement physically demonstrated by the Berlin Philharmonic or the Vienna Philharmonic or other European orchestras that I&#8217;ve seen is fake. 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What I have learned, in four years of visiting and spending a day with 125 different American symphony orchestras, is that it is impossible to generalize - but that a great many of them have been\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;bloggers&quot;","block_context":{"text":"bloggers","link":"https:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/category\/bloggers\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2115,"url":"https:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/2009\/03\/11\/amazing-recording-resource\/","url_meta":{"origin":778,"position":1},"title":"amazing recording resource","author":"Charles Noble","date":"March 11, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Henry Fogel, president of the League of American Orchestras and former President of the Chicago Symphony, has amassed a huge collection of LP's and CD's over the years, and he's created an online database (at HenrysRecords.org) of all the information from these recordings (including personnel, timings, etc.).\u00c2\u00a0 It's a great\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;historical performance&quot;","block_context":{"text":"historical performance","link":"https:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/category\/music\/historical-performance\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/henry-wono-small.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":348,"url":"https:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/2007\/06\/02\/assault-on-critics\/","url_meta":{"origin":778,"position":2},"title":"assault on critics","author":"Charles Noble","date":"June 2, 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"Henry Fogel writes about the alarming trend of major US newspapers jettisoning their classical music critics.\u00c2\u00a0 They say that they aren't diminishing their arts coverage, but shouldn't an expert provide the coverage?\u00c2\u00a0 Here's a link to the blog entry.","rel":"","context":"In &quot;the orchestra world&quot;","block_context":{"text":"the orchestra world","link":"https:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/category\/music\/the-orchestra-world\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":5127,"url":"https:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/2010\/07\/29\/severe-cuts-proposed-in-detroit\/","url_meta":{"origin":778,"position":3},"title":"severe cuts proposed in detroit","author":"Charles Noble","date":"July 29, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"This came over the PRNewswire today (thanks to Elaine for bringing it to my attention): Detroit Symphony Musicians Targeted for Deep Slashes; Will Other Symphony Orchestra Musicians Also Be Under Gun? 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