{"id":1453,"date":"2008-11-19T00:55:24","date_gmt":"2008-11-19T08:55:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/?p=1453"},"modified":"2013-02-07T19:08:54","modified_gmt":"2013-02-08T03:08:54","slug":"worlds-top-orchestras","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/2008\/11\/19\/worlds-top-orchestras\/","title":{"rendered":"world&#8217;s top orchestras?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I don&#8217;t know how one could actually come up with a list like this and keep a straight face, but I guess it&#8217;s akin to the coaches\/journalists polls that determine college football\/basketball rankings.\u00c2\u00a0 At least orchestras don&#8217;t have to navigate the inanities of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/11\/Bowl_Championship_Series\">BCS system<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>UPDATE<\/strong><\/span>: Robert Levine skewers this idiotic ranking with his usual wit and intelligence <a href=\"http:\/\/theafmobserver.typepad.com\/abu_bratsche\/2008\/11\/when-the-irredeemably-stupid-meets-the-inherently-unmeasurable-.html\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"Modul kasten ganz\">\n<div class=\"blockHead\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.br-online.de\/br-klassik\/br-symphonieorchester\/br-symphonieorchester-ranking-gramophone-klassik-topmeldung-ID1227019877321.xml\"><em>Die 20 Top-Orchester der Welt<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"kastenBody\">\n<p>1.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Concertgebouw-Orkest, Amsterdam<br \/>\n2.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Berliner Philharmoniker<br \/>\n3.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Wiener Philharmoniker<br \/>\n4.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 London Symphony Orchestra<br \/>\n5.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Chicago Symphony Orchestra<br \/>\n6.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks<br \/>\n7.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Cleveland Orchestra<br \/>\n8.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Los Angeles Philharmonic<br \/>\n9.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0 Budapest Festival Orchestra<br \/>\n10.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0S\u00c3\u00a4chsische Staatskapelle Dresden<br \/>\n11.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Boston Symphony Orchestra<br \/>\n12.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0New York Philharmonic<br \/>\n13.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0San Francisco Symphony<br \/>\n14.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Mariinsky Theater Orchestra<br \/>\n15.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Russian National Orchestra<br \/>\n16.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Leningrad Phillharmonic<br \/>\n17.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Gewandhausorchester Leipzig<br \/>\n18.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Metropolitan Opera Orchestra<br \/>\n19.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Saito Kinen Symphony Orchestra<br \/>\n20.\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0\u00c2\u00a0Tschechische Philharmonie<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I don&#8217;t know how one could actually come up with a list like this and keep a straight face, but I guess it&#8217;s akin to the coaches\/journalists polls that determine college football\/basketball rankings.\u00c2\u00a0 At least orchestras don&#8217;t have to navigate the inanities of the BCS system&#8230; 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