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		<title>By: bob priest</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed 100%. 

Now, when does Robin Williams get the baton? Imagine how much fun the rehearsals would be!</description>
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<p>Now, when does Robin Williams get the baton? Imagine how much fun the rehearsals would be!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny Kaye never claimed he was a conductor, great or otherwise, and he was actually a very good, astute, musician.  So he had the respect of those with whom he worked - and being a comedic genius didn&#039;t hurt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Kaye never claimed he was a conductor, great or otherwise, and he was actually a very good, astute, musician.  So he had the respect of those with whom he worked &#8211; and being a comedic genius didn&#8217;t hurt!</p>
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		<title>By: bob priest</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 22:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I saw Danny Kaye backstage after an LA Phil. concert many years ago. He was roaring drunk. He, and symphony musicians around him, were having a great time. They seemed to love him.

As for McCartney&#039;s appalling &quot;Standing Stone&quot; being a financial disaster when it was presented here in PDX, perhaps it wasn&#039;t marketed correctly? It would be interesting to know more of the details surrounding that occasion. 

However, with the right kitschmeister in charge of promotion for the 1-2-3 punch I outline above (oratorio, doctorate after-hours love fest), I believe that a bona-fide tidal-wave of ticket sales would ensue.

D-Bob says, come on &quot;kids,&quot; let&#039;s give it a go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I saw Danny Kaye backstage after an LA Phil. concert many years ago. He was roaring drunk. He, and symphony musicians around him, were having a great time. They seemed to love him.</p>
<p>As for McCartney&#8217;s appalling &#8220;Standing Stone&#8221; being a financial disaster when it was presented here in PDX, perhaps it wasn&#8217;t marketed correctly? It would be interesting to know more of the details surrounding that occasion. </p>
<p>However, with the right kitschmeister in charge of promotion for the 1-2-3 punch I outline above (oratorio, doctorate after-hours love fest), I believe that a bona-fide tidal-wave of ticket sales would ensue.</p>
<p>D-Bob says, come on &#8220;kids,&#8221; let&#8217;s give it a go!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ACD - exactly my point, and something that&#039;s been ignored by most of the people involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACD &#8211; exactly my point, and something that&#8217;s been ignored by most of the people involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall, we programmed &quot;Standing Stone&quot; and it was a financial disaster, who knows, it&#039;s hard to tell what will sell in a particular market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall, we programmed &#8220;Standing Stone&#8221; and it was a financial disaster, who knows, it&#8217;s hard to tell what will sell in a particular market.</p>
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		<title>By: bob priest</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Kaplan case reminds me of Sir Paul McCartney a bit. If not for Pauly&#039;s name recognition and financial clout, his 4th-rate &quot;classical&quot; compositions would barely see the light of day (or is it, hear the breath of sound?). That they are recorded on top labels and performed by world-class orchestras around the globe irks me considerably. 

Then again, perhaps it&#039;s time to program McCartney&#039;s &quot;Liverpool Oratorio&quot; here in Portland to help refill the sagging coffers of some local arts organizations? You want a younger audience at concerts? Paul&#039;s &quot;classical&quot; works are just the ticket. AND, if Yale can give him an honorary doctorate, why can&#039;t one of PDX&#039;s finer schools join in on the Ivy League fun? Wouldn&#039;t you just love to see &quot;Beatlemania&quot; erupt once again among the aging academics screaming in their seats?

D-Bob says, Let&#039;s do it!

PS
Now, getting Paul to cut loose with a few steamin&#039; rockers at an after-hours club WOULD be worth the price of admission!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Kaplan case reminds me of Sir Paul McCartney a bit. If not for Pauly&#8217;s name recognition and financial clout, his 4th-rate &#8220;classical&#8221; compositions would barely see the light of day (or is it, hear the breath of sound?). That they are recorded on top labels and performed by world-class orchestras around the globe irks me considerably. </p>
<p>Then again, perhaps it&#8217;s time to program McCartney&#8217;s &#8220;Liverpool Oratorio&#8221; here in Portland to help refill the sagging coffers of some local arts organizations? You want a younger audience at concerts? Paul&#8217;s &#8220;classical&#8221; works are just the ticket. AND, if Yale can give him an honorary doctorate, why can&#8217;t one of PDX&#8217;s finer schools join in on the Ivy League fun? Wouldn&#8217;t you just love to see &#8220;Beatlemania&#8221; erupt once again among the aging academics screaming in their seats?</p>
<p>D-Bob says, Let&#8217;s do it!</p>
<p>PS<br />
Now, getting Paul to cut loose with a few steamin&#8217; rockers at an after-hours club WOULD be worth the price of admission!</p>
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		<title>By: A.C. Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.C. Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I wrote in an update to my initial post on this on Sounds &amp; Fury (and I quote):

&quot;[E]ven were Mr. Kaplan a genuine Mahler scholar (NPI) as he&#039;s put out to be, that in no way qualifies him to mount the podium in front of one of the greatest symphonic ensembles in the world. We mean, the man is not even a trained musician much less a trained conductor, fer chrissake. However, we suspect that what prompted the strident attack on him by Finlayson was, in large part, for the wrong reasons. We suspect that what got to Finlayson was Kaplan&#039;s insufferable arrogance, NOT his lack of qualification. We suspect that had Kaplan adopted the attitude of, say, Danny Kaye when he stood on the podium in front of the NYP for their pension concert, and, like Kaye, took the attitude that, as a conductor, it was all in the spirit of good will rather than an attempt at a definitive performance of the Mahler No. 2, Finlayson&#039;s flaying criticism of Kaplan would never have been written. &quot;

ACD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I wrote in an update to my initial post on this on Sounds &amp; Fury (and I quote):</p>
<p>&#8220;[E]ven were Mr. Kaplan a genuine Mahler scholar (NPI) as he&#8217;s put out to be, that in no way qualifies him to mount the podium in front of one of the greatest symphonic ensembles in the world. We mean, the man is not even a trained musician much less a trained conductor, fer chrissake. However, we suspect that what prompted the strident attack on him by Finlayson was, in large part, for the wrong reasons. We suspect that what got to Finlayson was Kaplan&#8217;s insufferable arrogance, NOT his lack of qualification. We suspect that had Kaplan adopted the attitude of, say, Danny Kaye when he stood on the podium in front of the NYP for their pension concert, and, like Kaye, took the attitude that, as a conductor, it was all in the spirit of good will rather than an attempt at a definitive performance of the Mahler No. 2, Finlayson&#8217;s flaying criticism of Kaplan would never have been written. &#8221;</p>
<p>ACD</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that Rosalind should mention the audience, because audience reaction to Kaplan&#039;s performances is one of things that I&#039;ve noticed lacking in just about all of the blog coverage of this topic. We&#039;ve heard a lot from musicians and music critics, but precious little from the people who bought tickets. 

Speaking of audiences, I was also reminded of a link Charles posted a few weeks back to a piece by Holly Mulcahy entitled &quot;How To Alienate Your Audience in 10 Easy Steps: Musicians.&quot; For Step 7 (&quot;Roll eyes when your colleagues make mistakes during concerts&quot;) she wrote, &quot;There is nothing more insulting to you as a professional than a fellow musician that is not performing to your standards. Worse still, someone in the audience might think you were the idiot who made the mistake. Rolling your eyes and/or smirking lets everyone know that you are not only innocent of the transgression but you acknowledge that it was wholly ruined by someone else.&quot;

Step 8 (&quot;Snub anyone and everyone in a lesser artistic position to yours&quot;) seemed to be particularly relevant to the discussion of professional status. &quot;It is a shame to admit it, but everyone gets caught up in the social status bear trap at one point or another. Even so, it pays to keep the social fight or flight mechanism from clouding your judgment. You never know who you are talking with so be nice and treat all colleagues with the level of respect you expect they would show to you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that Rosalind should mention the audience, because audience reaction to Kaplan&#8217;s performances is one of things that I&#8217;ve noticed lacking in just about all of the blog coverage of this topic. We&#8217;ve heard a lot from musicians and music critics, but precious little from the people who bought tickets. </p>
<p>Speaking of audiences, I was also reminded of a link Charles posted a few weeks back to a piece by Holly Mulcahy entitled &#8220;How To Alienate Your Audience in 10 Easy Steps: Musicians.&#8221; For Step 7 (&#8220;Roll eyes when your colleagues make mistakes during concerts&#8221;) she wrote, &#8220;There is nothing more insulting to you as a professional than a fellow musician that is not performing to your standards. Worse still, someone in the audience might think you were the idiot who made the mistake. Rolling your eyes and/or smirking lets everyone know that you are not only innocent of the transgression but you acknowledge that it was wholly ruined by someone else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Step 8 (&#8220;Snub anyone and everyone in a lesser artistic position to yours&#8221;) seemed to be particularly relevant to the discussion of professional status. &#8220;It is a shame to admit it, but everyone gets caught up in the social status bear trap at one point or another. Even so, it pays to keep the social fight or flight mechanism from clouding your judgment. You never know who you are talking with so be nice and treat all colleagues with the level of respect you expect they would show to you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we say come on over and let&#039;s do it - within reason, of course!  I believe that one of the articles said that Kaplan was a regular supporter of the Philharmonic, a figure of $10,000 each season seems to come to mind.  So, he was a good supporter, but hardly in the top echelon of givers to the NYPhil, especially considering his net worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we say come on over and let&#8217;s do it &#8211; within reason, of course!  I believe that one of the articles said that Kaplan was a regular supporter of the Philharmonic, a figure of $10,000 each season seems to come to mind.  So, he was a good supporter, but hardly in the top echelon of givers to the NYPhil, especially considering his net worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosalind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosalind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating discussion here.  I wonder if there is a way of finding out if Kaplan &quot;made a charitable donation&quot; to the NYPhil pension fund?   Or, if he donated his &quot;conducting&quot; services for free?   In one of the articles he seems to imply he has never paid to conduct an orchestra.

I think the key factor for me is that if it is always made clear that he is an &quot;amateur conductor&quot; - albeit one who has invested a lot of his time and money into his obsession with this score - then it is entirely up to the audience to decide whether they want to spend their money watching him conduct/or pretend to conduct the NYPhil, or rather stay at home and watch Bernstein do the same work on DVD.   Personally, I would have stayed at home, but I can understand a lot of people perhaps feeling inspired by his situation... rightly or wrongly...

Charles - how would you and your colleagues react in these difficult economic times if Kaplan, or any other &quot;amateur&quot; conductor for that matter, approached the Oregon Symphony and said:  &quot;I&#039;ll donate $100K to the endowment fund if you let me conduct Mahler 2/Beethoven 5... etc etc&quot; ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating discussion here.  I wonder if there is a way of finding out if Kaplan &#8220;made a charitable donation&#8221; to the NYPhil pension fund?   Or, if he donated his &#8220;conducting&#8221; services for free?   In one of the articles he seems to imply he has never paid to conduct an orchestra.</p>
<p>I think the key factor for me is that if it is always made clear that he is an &#8220;amateur conductor&#8221; &#8211; albeit one who has invested a lot of his time and money into his obsession with this score &#8211; then it is entirely up to the audience to decide whether they want to spend their money watching him conduct/or pretend to conduct the NYPhil, or rather stay at home and watch Bernstein do the same work on DVD.   Personally, I would have stayed at home, but I can understand a lot of people perhaps feeling inspired by his situation&#8230; rightly or wrongly&#8230;</p>
<p>Charles &#8211; how would you and your colleagues react in these difficult economic times if Kaplan, or any other &#8220;amateur&#8221; conductor for that matter, approached the Oregon Symphony and said:  &#8220;I&#8217;ll donate $100K to the endowment fund if you let me conduct Mahler 2/Beethoven 5&#8230; etc etc&#8221; ??</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 08:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting situation.  Lebrecht seems to be stuck in the last days of the Empire, with the ruling class calling the shots on the lowly working class, and being afraid that they&#039;ll get their collective act together and start running their own show.  That &quot;stay down where you belong&quot; attitude really rubs me the wrong way on so many levels.  

Also, there&#039;s a disturbing backlash against the supposed &quot;elites&quot; in all their flavors.  We idolize pop stars who come from humble roots, or just care enough to get past Paula, Randy and Simon and make it big.  On the other hand, we&#039;re suspicious of those who have undergone rigorous educational processes yet still deign to entertain us.  It&#039;s sort of a new wrinkle on the Madonna/Whore duality.  We want to be entertained, but never to know how much incredibly hard work it takes to be a quality musician in any genre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting situation.  Lebrecht seems to be stuck in the last days of the Empire, with the ruling class calling the shots on the lowly working class, and being afraid that they&#8217;ll get their collective act together and start running their own show.  That &#8220;stay down where you belong&#8221; attitude really rubs me the wrong way on so many levels.  </p>
<p>Also, there&#8217;s a disturbing backlash against the supposed &#8220;elites&#8221; in all their flavors.  We idolize pop stars who come from humble roots, or just care enough to get past Paula, Randy and Simon and make it big.  On the other hand, we&#8217;re suspicious of those who have undergone rigorous educational processes yet still deign to entertain us.  It&#8217;s sort of a new wrinkle on the Madonna/Whore duality.  We want to be entertained, but never to know how much incredibly hard work it takes to be a quality musician in any genre.</p>
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		<title>By: bob priest</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you certainly have some time on your hands these days! Say, between the DVD player and the keyboard, how about working up Heinz Holliger&#039;s &quot;Trema&quot; for solo viola? :)))

Anyway, I like your medical-schooled doctor analogy and find it to be spot-on. Sadly, even in that rigorous world, one winds up with incompetent hacks (murderers?) like the well-known local, Dr. Jayant Patel. Yes, I&#039;m giving an extreme example which does  not bear any real analogical resemblance to the extremity of Mr. Kaplan&#039;s case history. Or does it? For, you see, one thing is consistent in both sorry scenarios; there are, and have been, numerous colluders that have helped usher along the careers of both men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you certainly have some time on your hands these days! Say, between the DVD player and the keyboard, how about working up Heinz Holliger&#8217;s &#8220;Trema&#8221; for solo viola? <img src='http://www.nobleviola.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))</p>
<p>Anyway, I like your medical-schooled doctor analogy and find it to be spot-on. Sadly, even in that rigorous world, one winds up with incompetent hacks (murderers?) like the well-known local, Dr. Jayant Patel. Yes, I&#8217;m giving an extreme example which does  not bear any real analogical resemblance to the extremity of Mr. Kaplan&#8217;s case history. Or does it? For, you see, one thing is consistent in both sorry scenarios; there are, and have been, numerous colluders that have helped usher along the careers of both men.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Charles on this one, and the analogy with the doctor is apt. I would follow the money on this one, I doubt the Philharmonic would do anything if it didn&#039;t involve a handsome addition to the bottom line (good for them I say, they have to face the painful reality...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Charles on this one, and the analogy with the doctor is apt. I would follow the money on this one, I doubt the Philharmonic would do anything if it didn&#8217;t involve a handsome addition to the bottom line (good for them I say, they have to face the painful reality&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a big difference between an academic medical researcher and an amateur conductor. For one thing, no one&#039;s life is in put in danger when Kaplan lifts his baton.

The issue of professional status, and the qualitative perceptions that go along with that status, is quite interesting and I hope you&#039;re able to pick it up in a later post. I&#039;d be happy to share my own experiences as a musicologist without a Ph.D or an academic position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a big difference between an academic medical researcher and an amateur conductor. For one thing, no one&#8217;s life is in put in danger when Kaplan lifts his baton.</p>
<p>The issue of professional status, and the qualitative perceptions that go along with that status, is quite interesting and I hope you&#8217;re able to pick it up in a later post. I&#8217;d be happy to share my own experiences as a musicologist without a Ph.D or an academic position.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My next thought would be that it has a lot to do with the professional/amateur schism and all the baggage that that entails.  I may get around to posting about that subject in the new year.  Thanks for writing in, Bob!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My next thought would be that it has a lot to do with the professional/amateur schism and all the baggage that that entails.  I may get around to posting about that subject in the new year.  Thanks for writing in, Bob!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My response would be &quot;should an academic medical researcher jump into clinical practice in a major hospital?&quot; - if the answer is no, then that&#039;s why there&#039;s an issue with Kaplan as a conductor, for all of the reasons I outlined in my post above.  If the answer is yes, would you go to that doctor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response would be &#8220;should an academic medical researcher jump into clinical practice in a major hospital?&#8221; &#8211; if the answer is no, then that&#8217;s why there&#8217;s an issue with Kaplan as a conductor, for all of the reasons I outlined in my post above.  If the answer is yes, would you go to that doctor?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.nobleviola.com/2008/12/23/additional-thoughts-on-kaplan/comment-page-1/#comment-12939</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an excerpt from a 1989 Gramophone magazine review of Kaplan&#039;s first Mahler Second recording:

&quot;Much has already been written about Gilbert Kaplan&#039;s extraordinary obsession with Mahler&#039;s Resurrection Symphony. A wealthy publisher and financier, he not only owns the manuscript and has published it in a facsimile that is a miracle of book-production, but he took lessons to enable him to conduct it. This he has done on many occasions, with several orchestras. Naturally this has led to a good deal of scepticism and to &#039;toffee-nosed&#039; disparagement from some professional musicians and academics. With the uncharitableness and new puritanism which disfigure so much of today&#039;s writing about music, it will be viewed as a crime for an amateur to invade the closed shop and if the amateur also happens to be rich, then that is the ultimate indiscretion. No doubt Kaplan&#039;s wealth has been a big advantage to him (and to others, incidentally) but I suspect it is irrelevant in this case. If a post-office worker like the late Frank Walker, who was not a professional writer, devotes all his spare time to ferreting out and correcting errors and misconceptions about Hugo Wolf and Verdi so that he can write books about them which changed our perceptions of both composers, then that is scholarship and everyone admires it. Why should Kaplan&#039;s devotion to the minutiae of this Mahler symphony not be regarded in a similar spirit?&quot;

â€œOne answer,â€ the reviewer notes, â€œis that writing is a solitary art and act [while] conducting a choral symphony involves over 200 other people and persuading them to do what you want. Anyone can beat time; only a relative few can conduct and &#039;interpret&#039;â€¦.Having heard [Kaplan] at a concert and now on this recording, no one will persuade me that he cannot conduct Mahler&#039;s Second Symphony. An interpretation of this degree of excellence and emotional range cannot be faked by a nod, say from the orchestra leader.â€ In the end, the reviewer compares Kaplan&#039;s recording to that of Simon Rattle, saying that the two â€œcomplement each other and I should not wish to be without either.&quot;

Kaplan has been performing this piece on a more or less regular basis since 1982, and he even recorded it again with the Vienna Philharmonic in 2003. He has established a foundation dedicated to studying and preserving the composerâ€™s music, and along with Renate Stark-Voigt, who is herself a highly regarded Mahler scholar, he has been commissioned to produce a new critical edition of the Second Symphony, to be issued under the auspices of the Internationale Gustav Mahler Gesellschaft in Vienna. Now none of this makes him a great conductor, nor does it automatically qualify him to stand in front of the New York Philharmonic (or any other orchestra for that matter). I think itâ€™s safe to say, though, that after 25 years of living with the work, he has more than a passing familiarity with it. That alone is no small feat.

Finlayson has certainly raised a number of very interesting questions, but Iâ€™m wondering why this is such a hot button issue on the musical blogosphere right now. Itâ€™s not entirely clear to me whatâ€™s really driving all of the passion and intensity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an excerpt from a 1989 Gramophone magazine review of Kaplan&#8217;s first Mahler Second recording:</p>
<p>&#8220;Much has already been written about Gilbert Kaplan&#8217;s extraordinary obsession with Mahler&#8217;s Resurrection Symphony. A wealthy publisher and financier, he not only owns the manuscript and has published it in a facsimile that is a miracle of book-production, but he took lessons to enable him to conduct it. This he has done on many occasions, with several orchestras. Naturally this has led to a good deal of scepticism and to &#8216;toffee-nosed&#8217; disparagement from some professional musicians and academics. With the uncharitableness and new puritanism which disfigure so much of today&#8217;s writing about music, it will be viewed as a crime for an amateur to invade the closed shop and if the amateur also happens to be rich, then that is the ultimate indiscretion. No doubt Kaplan&#8217;s wealth has been a big advantage to him (and to others, incidentally) but I suspect it is irrelevant in this case. If a post-office worker like the late Frank Walker, who was not a professional writer, devotes all his spare time to ferreting out and correcting errors and misconceptions about Hugo Wolf and Verdi so that he can write books about them which changed our perceptions of both composers, then that is scholarship and everyone admires it. Why should Kaplan&#8217;s devotion to the minutiae of this Mahler symphony not be regarded in a similar spirit?&#8221;</p>
<p>â€œOne answer,â€ the reviewer notes, â€œis that writing is a solitary art and act [while] conducting a choral symphony involves over 200 other people and persuading them to do what you want. Anyone can beat time; only a relative few can conduct and &#8216;interpret&#8217;â€¦.Having heard [Kaplan] at a concert and now on this recording, no one will persuade me that he cannot conduct Mahler&#8217;s Second Symphony. An interpretation of this degree of excellence and emotional range cannot be faked by a nod, say from the orchestra leader.â€ In the end, the reviewer compares Kaplan&#8217;s recording to that of Simon Rattle, saying that the two â€œcomplement each other and I should not wish to be without either.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kaplan has been performing this piece on a more or less regular basis since 1982, and he even recorded it again with the Vienna Philharmonic in 2003. He has established a foundation dedicated to studying and preserving the composerâ€™s music, and along with Renate Stark-Voigt, who is herself a highly regarded Mahler scholar, he has been commissioned to produce a new critical edition of the Second Symphony, to be issued under the auspices of the Internationale Gustav Mahler Gesellschaft in Vienna. Now none of this makes him a great conductor, nor does it automatically qualify him to stand in front of the New York Philharmonic (or any other orchestra for that matter). I think itâ€™s safe to say, though, that after 25 years of living with the work, he has more than a passing familiarity with it. That alone is no small feat.</p>
<p>Finlayson has certainly raised a number of very interesting questions, but Iâ€™m wondering why this is such a hot button issue on the musical blogosphere right now. Itâ€™s not entirely clear to me whatâ€™s really driving all of the passion and intensity.</p>
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		<title>By: Cesar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cesar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo!</description>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent analysis, Charles! I&#039;ve enjoyed following this debate through your blog. I&#039;m not a fan of NL either. I think you do a much better job...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analysis, Charles! I&#8217;ve enjoyed following this debate through your blog. I&#8217;m not a fan of NL either. I think you do a much better job&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaplanmeister? &#171; The Polyphonic Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.nobleviola.com/2008/12/23/additional-thoughts-on-kaplan/comment-page-1/#comment-12936</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaplanmeister? &#171; The Polyphonic Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] madly about Gilbert Kaplanâ€™s appearance with the New York Philharmonic. Charles Noble had a long post worth reading that captured pretty much every interesting angle on the subject. He was especially [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] madly about Gilbert Kaplanâ€™s appearance with the New York Philharmonic. Charles Noble had a long post worth reading that captured pretty much every interesting angle on the subject. He was especially [...]</p>
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